Posts by worldly girl

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NASHVILLE Press Conference Info

by worldly girl in

just checking in to share the details of our local press conference!!

it turned out to be a handfull of us there, including: barbara and joe anderson, tatoomom, and myself.

all in all it went very well.... we didn't even have any dubs show up..... i guess they were on their mcdonald's break at the time!!

worldly girl

Hello everyone!! Just checking in to share the details of our local press conference!! It turned out to be a handfull of us there, including: Barbara and Joe Anderson, TatooMom, and myself. All in all it went VERY well.... we didn't even have any dubs show up..... I guess they were on their McDonald's break at the time!! LMAO Anyways, we had a newpaper reporter show up, and 2 local TV stations... check them out tonight after 6pm.... www.wsmv.com , and www.wkrn.com You should be able to at least read our story!! It was very nerve racking to do this and TatooMom and myself have been shaking all day, but we know we did the right thing, for all of the victims who couldn't speak out. I would also like to say that if it hadn't been for Joe and Barbara supporting us, we probably wouldn't have had the courage to do so.... Finally I would like to say THANK YOU to the media that showed up, and listened to us... I would say they are probably the first to listen to our stories in a LONG time!! AND thanks to everyone on her for their continued support!!!

HUGS TO ALL!!!!

WG

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Super Bowl Predictions

by WildTurkey in

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im a huge cowboy fan but i dont think they will make it to the super bowl, damn sure would love to be wrong.

ok here is who i think as of right now pittsburgh stealers and san francisco 49ers and god i hate them both, well thats my pick how about you?

worldly girl

CC Ryder: I'm with you.... Gotta stick w/ the home team.... GO TITANS.... I feel an AFC championship coming on for an appetizer, and I feel a SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP as the main course.....

We are of course the NFL's NUMBER ONE FANS!! GO TITANS

WG

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I NEED your advice!!!!! Please reply!

by worldly girl in

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friends

ok here's the deal..... i've not had much to do w/ my parents since jan '02 when my mother and i got into over her force feeding my 3 year old the "troof".

when i respectfully ask her on behalf of myself and my non jw husband, to respect us enough to let us teach our child about religion.... her response was "well if you don't want her around our religion, then don't bring her around us".

and during the course of this conversation she stated this in the most hateful of tones at least 4 or 5 times to both me and my husband, in front of our daughter.... well i was furious.... that she would say such a thing and openly chose to have nothing to w/ my daughter.. without being given an ultimatum<sp> to choose.

worldly girl

Blacksheep: You know I really need that book... Thanks for suggesting it to me! To be honest I really think that I'm more on the lines of option 3... Option 2 just doesn't appeal to me, because I have a hard time being fake and putting on the "we're such a loving family" facade even if it is for an hour or so every once in awhile... That's one thing I HATE about JW's... and people in general.

Tink: I deeply admire your strength, I just don't know if I have that strength anymore, I'm tired of the constant emotional games that they play....My family has a history of "cutting someone off" when they disagree, so I don't think that it is an option... they're pretty "all or nothing".

New Developments: My not all there sister in law who is trying to play "save their family", has just asked if we would allow her to take my child with her and my nephew to my parents house for the day.... Did I mention that up until a few months ago, my parents could not stand her, and she and I have never been on good terms. So needless to say, I never had to answer her voicemail, because my nephew is sick now.... whew that was close... See that's my problem, I tend to just put it off, because when I face, I usually end up depressed, for awhile. THIS SUCKS

Oh well... I hope everyone has a GREAT weekend!

WG

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I NEED your advice!!!!! Please reply!

by worldly girl in

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friends

ok here's the deal..... i've not had much to do w/ my parents since jan '02 when my mother and i got into over her force feeding my 3 year old the "troof".

when i respectfully ask her on behalf of myself and my non jw husband, to respect us enough to let us teach our child about religion.... her response was "well if you don't want her around our religion, then don't bring her around us".

and during the course of this conversation she stated this in the most hateful of tones at least 4 or 5 times to both me and my husband, in front of our daughter.... well i was furious.... that she would say such a thing and openly chose to have nothing to w/ my daughter.. without being given an ultimatum<sp> to choose.

worldly girl

COMF: That's just it, they are shunning ME. Not my worldly husband, or my "worldly" daughter... BUT ME. The try to justify it by saying "when you come back to Jehovah, this will be resolved", all better if you will. BUT the funny part is I'm not DF'd and I've not DA'd myself..... so what justification is there in that?

To me, the worst kind of discrimination is that of a mother to her child. She is shunning me, and even by her religion's rules, I'm not in a position to be shunned.... It's that whole "conditional love" thing.... Honestly, for me, just like w/ friends I've had in the past, if I've realized that they aren't healthy (mentally speaking) relationships for me, I tend to sever the ties..... Morally I do not think it's wrong, because I'm making the choice to have more positive influences in my life, I'm not being told by my religion that I can't have a relationship w/ them... does any of this make sense?

WG

Edited by - Worldly Girl on 23 August 2002 9:8:29

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I NEED your advice!!!!! Please reply!

by worldly girl in

jw
friends

ok here's the deal..... i've not had much to do w/ my parents since jan '02 when my mother and i got into over her force feeding my 3 year old the "troof".

when i respectfully ask her on behalf of myself and my non jw husband, to respect us enough to let us teach our child about religion.... her response was "well if you don't want her around our religion, then don't bring her around us".

and during the course of this conversation she stated this in the most hateful of tones at least 4 or 5 times to both me and my husband, in front of our daughter.... well i was furious.... that she would say such a thing and openly chose to have nothing to w/ my daughter.. without being given an ultimatum<sp> to choose.

worldly girl

Blacksheep: As sick as this may sound it's comforting to know that someone else besides my immediate family understands what I'm going thru... Although I wish NO ONE had to experience these things.

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that what is really eating her up is the fact that she has NO CONTROL over this situation.

Granny: I appreciate your compassion.... if only more people were like you! :)

To be perfectly honest, I really DO NOT want a relationship with them. I'm not basing that on emotion entirely.... But when they are "outta sight, outta mind", I'm much more pleasant to be around. It's gotten to the point that my husband can tell just by my tone of voice when my parents have contacted me...And I have noticed that each and every time they contact me I tend go into a depression that may last anywhere from 1 week to several months. I really don't think a relationship with them is healthy for me or my family. Believe it or not, my brother in law feels the same way about my parents, because my older sister goes thru the same thing.... Both of them(my sister and her husbvand) are "inactive", I don't know all the details, just that he stepped down as an elder and joined her as missing in action shortly thereafter. BUT that's another story in itself.

To be perfectly honest, I'll probably sever<sp> all ties with them to avoid disappointment on the part of my daughter. You know, I'm grown, and I can get thru this, but I'll never be able to live with myself if I allow them to hurt her like they have me, and my gut feeling is that they won't be able to help themselves... as it is all they know. What a sad place to be in you life.... (thinking of my parents)... Well maybe Bethel can produce some "grandkids" for them, since they rule the rest of my parents life.

Oh yeah, my father.... He has no "balls".... hate to be so crude, but it's true. My mother has ALWAYS worn the pants in this family, and he will go along with WHATEVER she says... Therefore, I have no respect for him, and cannot feel like his intentions in contacting me are sincere.... Just by the fact that my mother hasn't attempted to bring closure to our last "argument", but has the NERVE to have my father contact me to manipulate me into allowing them to see my baby.

THIS IS SO STRESSFUL............... UGH

WG

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I NEED your advice!!!!! Please reply!

by worldly girl in

jw
friends

ok here's the deal..... i've not had much to do w/ my parents since jan '02 when my mother and i got into over her force feeding my 3 year old the "troof".

when i respectfully ask her on behalf of myself and my non jw husband, to respect us enough to let us teach our child about religion.... her response was "well if you don't want her around our religion, then don't bring her around us".

and during the course of this conversation she stated this in the most hateful of tones at least 4 or 5 times to both me and my husband, in front of our daughter.... well i was furious.... that she would say such a thing and openly chose to have nothing to w/ my daughter.. without being given an ultimatum<sp> to choose.

worldly girl

Thank you all for your suggestions.... There are a few things that I wanted to mention, and got sidetracked....

1. At the end of the conversation when she said I can call her.... I stated to her that "I won't be calling so don't expect the phone to ring".

2. The reason that my father is calling is (and I base this on what I've witnessed in their relationship most of my life) because my mother is trying to make every one she has told i.e: my holier than thou JW sister and trash of the earth worldly sister in law and the countless JW "friends", believe that SHE is the victim here, by using my father as the "spokesperson".... so that when I refuse talking to him, that all of her allies will view me a hateful.... This is just based on the history of situations w/ my older sister (inactive) and older brother (df'ed) and their children.

3. It really burns me up that they want to try to have a relationship with my child, yet I am their child and they want NOTHING to do with me. That makes me wonder if when my child is old enough, will they treat her the same way if she makes her OWN choices???

It's not that I just want to hurt them b/c I'm angry about the past, it's more a matter of I DO NOT want my child to grow up with the same assumption that I did, that is that they KNOW and have UNCONDITIONAL love for us... when in fact they don't even understand the meaning of the word. I WILL NEVER have unconditional love for my child... who is a part of me. I also do not want her to have the same issues w/ lack of self confidence that I and my siblings have because of our parents who always made us feel "not good enough", and that we would NEVER live up to JW standards....

I'm just so pulled... At times I will hear my little one in her room playing with her little pink cell phone, saying " Hi Nana, Hi Pops, when are you coming to get me".... and I cry EVERY time. I don't know how to explain to a 3 yr old that I feel that her grandparents are a negative influence in her life??? Besides that I'm afraid to leave her with my parents because they couldn't or wouldn't protect me or my brother from sexual abuse at the hands of "friends" and we are THEIR children.

Any other suggestions, besides just not responding, and putting it off... cuz that's what I'm leaning towards....

Edited b/c I'm scatterbrained today!! :)

Edited by - Worldly Girl on 22 August 2002 14:12:58

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I NEED your advice!!!!! Please reply!

by worldly girl in

jw
friends

ok here's the deal..... i've not had much to do w/ my parents since jan '02 when my mother and i got into over her force feeding my 3 year old the "troof".

when i respectfully ask her on behalf of myself and my non jw husband, to respect us enough to let us teach our child about religion.... her response was "well if you don't want her around our religion, then don't bring her around us".

and during the course of this conversation she stated this in the most hateful of tones at least 4 or 5 times to both me and my husband, in front of our daughter.... well i was furious.... that she would say such a thing and openly chose to have nothing to w/ my daughter.. without being given an ultimatum<sp> to choose.

worldly girl

Ok here's the deal..... I've not had much to do w/ my parents since Jan '02 when my mother and I got into over her force feeding my 3 year old the "troof". When I respectfully ask her on behalf of myself and my non JW husband, to respect us enough to let us teach our child about religion.... her response was "well if you don't want her around our religion, then don't bring her around us". AND during the course of this conversation she stated this in the most hateful of tones at least 4 or 5 times to both me and my husband, in front of our daughter.... Well I was FURIOUS.... that she would say such a thing and openly chose to have nothing to w/ my daughter.. without being given an ultimatum<sp> to choose. Long story short I confronted her about it and a few other issues, including my sexual abuse as a child from a few of "the friends"... To which she replied " boy those apostates sure do have a hold on you..." which I replied to,"no mom I chose to think for myself and not let a bunch of little old men TELL me what I should do in MY relationship with GOD." So needless to say the conversation eneded w/ her telling me when I'm ready to let her see my daughter to call her.... NOW, I received an email from my father (since my christian mother is shunning me, I guess) on Tuesday asking to come see my daughter on Saturday.... SO here's where I need your advice..... Should I ignore them, should I tell them what kind of hypricitical, insensitive "having no natural affection" JERKS I think they are, or should I GIVE them the ultimatum that they are seeking???? I just don't know what to do.....

Thanks for letting me vent, and offering your suggestions!!

WG

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WHY Society banned smoking

by Jigrigger in

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friends

in a recent post by rado, he mentions a report on religious violence in georgia.

".....they filled the baptismal pool with diesel fuel.".

so i figured this probably happened once before, a long time ago, and was the reason for the ban on smoking.

worldly girl

Maybe I'm wrong here, but Jehovah or as I like to refer to him.. GOD didn't tell us in the bible that not smoking was one of the 10 commandments did he? Just checking... IMO if someone wants to smoke, let them smoke.... It is between that individual and GOD in the end, so let them answer to GOD for their actions. I don't think those 12 little old guys have the right to tear apart families, by disfellowshipping a person for smoking. OH THAT'S RIGHT, they have GOD's cell phone number and they have worked out all these pesky little details on the rules.... LMAO

WG

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I NEED A HONKY TONK

by Tinkerbell4125 in

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friends

cowboy's thread on favorite songs, well it got me diggin out the c..d.'s.

i love ol george jones, tammy, vern gosdin.

listening to vern sing *is it raining at your house*.

worldly girl

TINK!! Why didn't you just say you needed a girls night out..... I'm up for it, just name the night and time and I'll take care of the places to go!! We can always go downtown, there's plenty to chose from..... BTW, I can also give you a heads up on where to stay away from, there's plenty of sleezeballs in the club industry.... but that's a story for another day!! Email me!!

WG

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How Many Here Have Been Shunned?

by Reborn2002 in

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friends

as most of you already know, the jehovah's witnesses are covering an article in their august kingdom ministry to be discussed the weeks of 8/19 and 8/26 which details how they are to shun and avoid those who are no longer members of their organization, even immediate family members.. .

undoubtedly this article has been written to reinforce to the rank&file jehovah's witnesses the shunning policy, so as to tighten the ranks and prevent members from having the opportunity to learn the abundant contradictions and hypocrisies found within watchtower doctrine and practice from any who may have left.. this policy also serves to divide families and attempt to shame or abuse those whom have chosen to no longer be jehovah's witnesses, for whatever reason.. that much is obvious.

in recent days this topic has been discussed in detail in various threads.

worldly girl

Reborn: I truly LOVE your posts. You speak so passionately, and obviously from your heart. I am neither DA'd or DF'd.... just "inactive". However, I am also SHUNNED!! My mother called me an apostate about a month ago, and at first it hurt, but then I got ANGRY. I was so angry for her "threatening" statements that she'd have nothing to do w/ me if I kept talking "that way". By the way: all I said that offended her so bad is that I CHOSE to think for myself instead of letting 12 little old me tell me what to THINK!! Long story short: I have chosen the path that I accept that until they die and we are dividing up what little material belongings they leave the 3 bad kids... (there are 4 of us only 1 still in the borg) that I will NEVER step foot into their home again, and will probably never seee them..... As sick as it may sound, my life is so much more peaceful when they aren't in it, and I've TRUELY learned the meaning of UNCONDITIONAL love, that I don't NEED their disfunctional version of love!!

Although my nephew and nieces aren't kept from me, I can relate to how you feel. I have a 3 y/o daughter and one day she is going to want to know why her grandparents don't love her.... and I'll just have to explain to her that in this world there are sick people who put family last and their religion FIRST..... and then I'll explain to her that GOD loves us all the same, and HE would NEVER ask us to treat our family that way. Believe me one day your nephew will become curious about you.... But don't hold your expectations too high and end up disappointing yourself..... It could go one of two ways.... He may see it as Bullshit, or he may be soooo brainwashed that he may never see the real TRUTH.(like many of my JW friends who were raised in it). Either way, the only thing you can do is love him with all of your heart and hope for the best!! Good luck to you!!

BTW: FUCK JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.........UNEDUCATED, CLOSED MINDED BASTARDS!! :)